To the surprise of no one in the world except the board, they did not share the boards belief that the honor of working there was more valuable than a pay raise. However, the school setting does make it seem a bit different I feel like it has a lot to do with the type of relationship you have. If you want a college degree, its an option! For people I know who do this, their first choice is the first pronoun, but they are also perfectly fine with the second if its easier for you. Since my credit was already ran, this time when they ran it, it came up as I needed to put down a deposit even though there was a deposit required the first time. how legit are those "best places to work" lists? I dont know how well that works with the OPs data-focused presentations, though. I mean of course people feel a variety of ways about this, but there are definitely people who have a preference for a mix. I might reconsider your future with this company if this is how people there generally act. The company is barely not a pyramid scheme. The new name is not one commonly associated with a male; in fact most would assume female, i.e. If this question were about an adult and a non-school setting, I would say it feels kind of disrespectful to check in if someone tells me in a professional setting that their pronouns are XYZ, I assume that is because they want me to use those pronouns in professional settings and that they would generally let me know if there were situational nuances they wanted me to be aware of. If some of my old jobs had this culture, I mightve been able to stick it out a bit longer. Cydcor, Smart Circle, Credico, and Appco Group are all the same pyramid scheme and this is the site they dare not take to court. For what it is worth, places in my area seem to be hiring. HR is supposed to be the most confidential and open door part of a company and the fact that you have to worry what information you share and what information she may share with the company, is not right. Hope you continue to post in future! Everyone I know who uses they does so because they think gender takes up way too much space in peoples identities, not because they are non binary or transgender. Was then told we needed to cancel the items that hadn't shipped and reorder them. :). Unfortunately, there are reasons to leave it on for many of us. I know this part in itself is off-topic and I hope it doesnt get deleted for being so, I just think it important for everyone discussing this or reading it in the future to keep in mind. Its perfectly good form when someone comes out to you with new name and pronouns to ask whether youre to use them with everyone, or if not, when. #3, I could have written your letter! YOU DONT NEED A SALESMAN TO GET PHONE SERVICE FOR YOUR BUSINESS, YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF ONLINE. Just before everyone went WFH, management changed all the name placards in the building so that they say if you have a PhD (but not if you have a Masters). Sidebar- I TOTALLY have been there- I had a boss who was kind of a jerk about every time I made a mistake and I swear I made more mistakes with him than any other boss. Do you have a trusted Co-worker that can proofread? You have obviously been successful without a degree, and you are not carrying student loan debt which is a significant benefit! (Make sure they are that type of person; my brain will read over things so I am usually not the best person.) Just seeing your words in a different format is a big help. Leave your permanent job for this 6 month contract! No, you are barking up the wrong tree here. https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/state-higher-education-funding-cuts-have-pushed-costs-to-students, http://jlarc.virginia.gov/higher-ed-cost.asp, https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/818nwg/any_excydcor_people_out_there/. I agree. Bit offtopic: Just like it gets old having people look down on someone for their lack of a degree, it also gets old to have people look down on someone for having gotten a degree. Also they will do just enough to make you believe that you are going to get promoted, just need to do a few more things. I just want to second Alisons suggestion about retail. Keymaster, off topic but I want you to know that whenever I come across your name in the comment section I perk up internally because I know I am about to hear a comment that is thoughtful, insightful, compassionate, interesting, and witty. Each of those has a different solution, which could be as simple as more proofreading (in the case of the first two) all the way up to more training (in the case of the last one). OP4, Im non-binary and use they/them pronouns and I disagree slightly with Alison. I think Ill reply with a thank you for reaching out, but not looking to move right now. I think youve done this before but Im always a fan. Im just wondering if there were any such letters previously. I spelled my own name wrong once. We should absolutely call them proudnouns! Not only does he get paid more than me every month, he also gets an annual bonus. Yep, Im working towards my third degree. Thats NOT a great system, but it will work. Hi LW1, OP1, you need to get out as soon as you can. When you write something, your mind fills in the sentence automatically and you wont see the typos or omitted words. They have tons of individual marketing companies each with their own name but Cydcor is the umbrella and every one of their little marketing offices is a scam. (You might already be doing that, of course!) Somebody asked the identity of the employee for reasons of mirth and cruelty, I expect, not because it was pertinent. I had a friend who was sucked into a different MLM scam recently. Not much help from the original guy that sold us the devices. Someone coming in with a fresh set of eyes can check if the overall results make sense, if they match other sources, if the code looks right, if important control values are correct, etc. Re: OP1: beyond working to get out as quickly as you can (as you should), I might suggest to put in research as well on HR practices, duties, how good HR functions that sort of thing. The Clearance guys did that. Upon getting home and looking at the contract, it was not the deal as promised. Cydcor Pyramid Scheme Monday, August 3, 2015. Se continui a visualizzare I worked in a job where a number of my coworkers had associate-equivalent degrees while I have a bachelors. There are some types of errors where that wouldnt help I guess, but I would expect any document going to senior executives to have already passed through at least two sets of eyes. One strategy Ive found that really helps me is to review everything in the reverse order of the way you originally did it. I have an associates. Over the years, the employers tended more and more to require a degree I, as a more recent employee had degrees but many of the most valued and experienced employees never got one, and as time went on the economic benefit of getting one decreased. To my knowledge, that would just mean that its perfectly safe to use either. My sister was earning many more pounds than me while I was paying off my loans. :). Eventually, I had enough experience under my belt that my lack of college was a moot point. No one really knows your circumstances. I got a much better paying job because I saw my worth. verdade. (It could be considered an advance on pay, but Im side-eyeing it really hard.) SAN DIEGO SHERIFF: William Gore. And it doesnt cost you anything. :/. Which, is why I pick a second person who is not the person Im trying to impress. Eventually the truth got out that the manager of the team reorganized the team to require a graduate degree because if he were managing only employees with graduate level education he got a sizeable raise and bonus for managinging a highly skilled team. If we were not in a pandemic, I would cut and run. The students deadname is going to be all over their application materials. BBB Business Profiles may not be reproduced for sales or promotional purposes. I routinely proof read my bosss documents before they go out the door. Hemingway is good at catching strangely worded phrases and sentences that need clarification. I work in government and everything (save for SS#s and banking info) in our file is public knowledge so Im not as disturbed by that the info is being kept private but the manner in which she is sharing this and the vitrol/mocking that is surrounding it is definitly wrong and should be brought to the attention of higher-ups. ". and that was the second interview. I wished we never ordered anything through them and just kept our service with Verizon. Our office in Rio reported with 0% error. Youll notice when something sounds strange. Id only worry if that field was mandatory (according to the employer). Maybe even better would be Susan (whose official name is John) is a great student. Just use the pronouns. Im still glad I got it but you are not a lesser person for not having it. First- Cydcors client (cable, internet, office supplies) or Cydcor themselves take the account away from the employee who established the account after 6 weeks- this means that the salesman only gets their residuals for a period of time- if the residuals stayed so would I; it would be a real sales job with potential for exponential pay which would balance out the meager commission. First, I cant lie to people, second, trying to sell something which has no benefits is a waste of time. Its so easy to pick up other peoples errors. I quickly realized what a scam it was, having to show up for two meetings daily to motivate and debrief, chanting and brainwashing. The free version catches the most obvious. Honestly this seems moot anyway, since Susan should never be in a position to see the recommendation letter. #4 actually no please dont ever deadname someone this way! OP2 Im curious about how senior management (ie, the audience) is able to call you out on the mistakes if this is the first time theyre seeing the presentation? Go figure. OP2, I dont know if the errors you makes are about substance or typos. And keep doing this. I get where youre coming from, but they is misgendering for plenty of people. Everyone needs a second, fresh pair of eyes. Thats the only reason I can think of to do such a thing, on the grand tours the CFO types like to tell the Vulture Capitalists how many Harvard / MIT / CalTech PhDs work there. At the very start of finding out about the illegal goings on I got very distressed at the thought of all the people whod never get their money back. The longer you are there, the more you fall into the sunk cost fallacy. Si continas recibiendo este mensaje, infrmanos del problema Cydcor is known to be awful. EDIT: I see my thread sort of actually catching on; if something doesn't make sense to you please let me know in the comments and I'll be glad to clarify. I would be completely unsurprised if it was not OK, and when you contact someone, they say Oh, THAT company again!. And follow your dreams as been discussed A LOT around here lately, particularly when those dreams lead to hefty debt and living paycheck to paycheck. Normally LWs do obfuscate, in which case its poor form to speculate, but if they say it themselves then, no reason to keep it secret. Unfortunately in some industries, the lack of a degree makes people view you completely differently and they wont take you seriously, regardless of your experience and what you bring to the table. Then just use the specified pronouns. Look for other jobs immediately. The more you practice at it the more natural it will feel for your whole team. I paid everything paid out of pocket. Someone who says they use he/they means that its okay to use he/him/his or they/them/theirs, not that theyre mix-and-matching the two sets of pronouns on a per-sentence basis. I have a problem with careless mistakes. and the one thing Ive learned is that it is nearly impossible to have a 100% perfect document, even if it is proofed by multiple people. It is a multi-level marketing (pyramid) scam.It is sad and pathetic excuse for a company under the Cydcor umbrella.Save yourself the time and embarassment from your family and friends.Company does not reimburse you on any of the business expenses. SAN DIEGO DISTRICT ATTORNEY: Summer Stephan. Usually when I finish a file, I like to leave it until first thing the next morning to check before putting it in to review or at least until after lunch. But this bunch was acting like the entire summer camp counselor staff when theyre in front of the kids. I am fan of reading it out loud, which can also be good presentation practice too. I will be watching suggestions with interest to this one. When I started, my university was state supported, then state encouraged and currently state acknowledged. At a certain point your brain sees what it is expecting instead of what is actually there. The only people I know who use it (and there are a lot of them) are all nonbinary. It was a really bad time. When I first started, about 25 years ago, a degree was nice to have. To use a Star Trek analogy: sometimes all you can do is raise shields and survive. Educational information is a big thing, and its actually posted on both internal and external employee profiles. Yep- Fully agree with this. #2: If youre able, try printing off the documents/presentation, or even change up the appearance on the computerdifferent font and line spacing. should I be worried by how pushy an employer was with a job offer over a holiday weekend? Its an argument for checking with Susan lw can point out that she wants people to know the letter goes with their application materials and make sure the name Susan is on there somewhere but thats about it imo. Thats not really relevant there are a lot of things that people do that are not legal. Most MLMs have a starter-package where you buy into the business and get an initial set of whatever it is youre selling, and then you have to keep buying the products so you can keep the product line up to date (so, if the company switches from Fall Product to Winter Product, you have to buy a bunch of Winter Product even if your garage is still full of Fall Product, etc.) I cant remember seeing this before, except maybe with a government employer. Is #1 the first time a writers company name was disclosed on this site? If youre more senior, I would talk about how you learned from the experience and do a lot more research on companies now. I didnt want the information to be blabbed about because it had no bearing on anything. You could say Susan Smith (he/they) as part of the letter. That made it very difficult to explain why someone with my experience and qualifications was applying for administrative roles. but hoo boy they were very irked about it. There was never an admin job. They promise people to be their own boss and make 6 figures in a year but the only people making 6 figures are the few at the top of the scheme (a handful of folks); everyone is working their butts off probably for less than min wage, no benefits, etc. OP2 as well as looking at with fresh eyes sometimes changing the font dramatically can help to spot errors because your brain looks at it as new. OTOH, Susan (who uses they pronouns) is not inclusive at all. She better not be getting the same pay! Id be concerned that someone pulling out personal info to entertain this nosy group and be the center of attention might have trouble drawing a line. Supporting bold initiatives. Couldn't activate the two devices that we did have. If the name Susan is on his application somewhere as the name he uses, just use that. We ensured that the representatives have been coached and understand the acceptable standards for interacting with customers and their pets going forward. Your HR person is awful not just for gossiping about peoples educational levels but for being so nasty about it. Its unlikely the school is going to think youre writing about the wrong person. Am I committing a faux pas here? Thank you for being a supportive and thoughtful person in their life! Theres a popular post that shows up a lot on Tumblr that tells you never to give your preferred pronouns on a job application, because anyone who asks for them is planning to trash your resume if youre trans or nonbinary. There are many ways to learn a skill; a college education is only one, an expensive one, and not even always the best one. 29899 Agoura Road, Suite . I saw someone above alternating the two pronouns in a response, like He might want you to do that but you should check with them first so you do what he wants and not what you think they want.. Cydcor is super scammy and a lie. - You are doing door to door sales as an 'independant contractor' -- which entails no salary, no benifits, nothing. (Universal Design isnt just to help people with disabilities). para informarnos de que tienes problemas. No one was harmed in the reading of this typo. I think someone was accidentally outed to family because a letter came with the persons preferred name. HR experience at a shady company is not great. Of course this recruiter has reached out a second time, you have skills and they are trying to make money in filling a position. Agreed x1000. I went back to school in my mid-30s. But *Amaranth* was not talking about the gossip, but about the possibility that someone might notice that something is (apparently) out of whack with the salary ranges. 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